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john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:02:00 - [1] Originally by: Vagel Wonderfull! Cant wait to get rid of them - and of cause, having 4,7 mill skillpoints to use as you see fit is even better :) yes, it's cool eve-online is on it's best way to be just another console game. what's next? make everyone equal, give each one of us a pad, set god mode and let ppl go crazy? this game, at it's current point has nothing to do with magic of eve in 2004-2005. that game was epic. this one is only a commercial product. cccp, you have lost your magic a long time ago. shame. ps. money, money, money...
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:09:00 - [2] beside, this is (well, WAS) Eve-Online. not WoW. this game supposed to be hard, a challenge for a new player, mistery sometimes. that kind of attributes set a filter to screen out reta.rds, noobs and worthless, brain dead zombies of internet. this is how this game looked when i started to play it. jesus, ppl. money aint everything. eve is, for some time, heading into wrong direction in my opinion. unless ofc it's your (cccp) agenta to go after kids' milk money. SHAME ON YOU.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Joss56 Good decision CCP. 1-SP credit for those who have trained them already This is fair. 2- New player doesn't have to wait 1 month (+/-) of learnings, wich i'm quite sure made a lot quit the game after they're 14days trial. Thx 2nd point. yes, great. another fast-food product. we realy lack those. ppl quiting after 14 days trial? i say good. less impatient ppl, more pros and serious characters.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Phaedriel Originally by: Versuvius Marii Sod off back to WoW, the lot of ya :P Don't need to, EVE is slowly turning into WoW with all this 'simplification'. word.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Joss56 Originally by: john roe 2nd point. yes, great. another fast-food product. we realy lack those. ppl quiting after 14 days trial? i say good. less impatient ppl, more pros and serious characters. Don't agree with your opinion but i respect it. wow. that's really rare, mate. seriously... :] cheers
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Tarkin Hamir This is a stupid change and, worse, an idiotic diversion of resources (why not spend the time this has taken fixing bugs or adding content). Essentially this reduces the depth of the game while adding nothing back. true. making it WoW-more-alike.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:57:00 - [7] Originally by: HK 47 This is a sad day. EVE is loosing something what was important. EVE was a complex game. This is the way to make it easier and easier. Hope you guys without patience are happy now. What do you want to destroy next? Can't wait to see it ... cheers
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:13:00 - [8] Originally by: raukosen Originally by: HK 47 This is a sad day. EVE is loosing something what was important. EVE was a complex game. This is the way to make it easier and easier. Hope you guys without patience are happy now. What do you want to destroy next? Can't wait to see it ... Are you really that dumb? To train or not to train learning skills is an uninteresting decision that doesn't add anything to the game. Everyone who intends to keep playing the game should train them. The right thing to do when you started the game was to spin your ship for a month before you start playing the game. If that's not terrible design then I don't know what is. EVE's complexity has NOTHING to do with learning skills and if you think it does I'm surprised you can even spell complexity. People will complain about just about anything. "FFFFFFUUUUUU!!! They're making the game easier, now I don't have to spend my first month doing nothing. It's for noobs now!". it's so stupid I can hardly believe it are you really a 2010 player?
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Phaedriel Starting to feel like CCP need to split eve into 2 games. EVE: Classic EVE: WoW Edition Stick all these dumbing down measures into the WoW Edition and leave those with at least half a brain some complexity. i am glad that we still have a few good men onboard. ppl with brains who like challenges. ps <--------- WoW is that way
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:37:00 - [10] Edited by: john roe on 25/11/2010 19:37:52 what's next? free SPs for t2 gear? ...to make this game even more convenient for noobies?

john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:43:00 - [11] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Lahnius ...so, basically EVE is being slowly tailored for those that usually find happiness in the daily statement: "Look Mommy, I'm shooting stuff..." ...please, if your reply is "dont be stupid", or some long drawn out blast at my n00bisheticness, then just hush 'cuz flames fall on deaf ears... ...meh... My reply is "you're idiot". Because even stupid monkey can see that nothing that really affecting THE GAME haven't been removed or altered by this change. beginning eve around 2005. weeks of training learnirn skills. knowing the game. getting familiar with surroundings and ppl. getting some experience before starting the real voyage. beginning eve 2010 : I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! fast-food generation.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:52:00 - [12] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: john roe beginning eve 2010 : I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! fast-food generation. Where? I wanna be the first!!! Oh, it's was a joke? Shame on you... I though it was real... it's called a sarcasm, mate. only pointed out which way this game is heading... what it's changing into. into fast-food game. anyway, dont bother with that, mate. this whole concept is way too complicated for you, apparently.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Tonto Auri : "EVE remains as enjoyable as it is" then i want your version of this game because obviously we are playing 2 different types of eve. enjoyment in this game has ended (at least for me) around 2007. i am here only to see how this game is gonna die.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Capsuleer Newton Originally by: john roe Originally by: Tonto Auri : "EVE remains as enjoyable as it is" then i want your version of this game because obviously we are playing 2 different types of eve. enjoyment in this game has ended (at least for me) around 2007. i am here only to see how this game is gonna die. HAH!!! Such dedication... LMAO... ah... LMAO/LOL generation kids are with us tonight. how sweet... ...here is your candy [candy]
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: john roe Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: john roe beginning eve 2010 : I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! fast-food generation. Where? I wanna be the first!!! Oh, it's was a joke? Shame on you... I though it was real... it's called a sarcasm, mate. only pointed out which way this game is heading... what it's changing into. into fast-food game. anyway, dont bother with that, mate. this whole concept is way too complicated for you, apparently. It was a joke, not a sarcasm. It does not "leading" in any way with this change. Learning skills do not affect the game itself, only the time in which new character can fly, say, battleship. Even with this change, that said time won't be instant, or even short. Very enough to actually learn the game. Stop moaning. yes, cause when YOU were born you could walk, run, dance and do all kind of stuff from day 1. this particular change means nothing to me. i dont care about ISK nor SPs (my chars have stopped around 100-120M. they got all they need). all i care is that eve is evolving into wrong direction. simplyfing this game you are actualy killing it. eve-online was a parallel universe once. was mysterious and epic. and cccp lost that magic at some point. making really bad dev. decisions.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: john roe Originally by: Tonto Auri : "EVE remains as enjoyable as it is" then i want your version of this game because obviously we are playing 2 different types of eve. enjoyment in this game has ended (at least for me) around 2007. i am here only to see how this game is gonna die. Why don't you unsubscribe already, if it is such a heavy burden for you in last three years? It's not like EVE is your wife to which you have obligations... actualy, for some time now, eve is for me an IRC with pretty cool GUI :] i mean it. the only good thing about this is that i dont pay for this chit-chat with reall money. only isk. otherwise i would jump off the bridge a long time ago.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:18:00 - [17] Originally by: EdwardNardella I feared this change, I was wrong to dis trust you CCP. Thanks for this lovely gift. The redistributed points will put me into some goals that are over three months away! how about CCCP giving you ALL skills at lv5 and around 600 gazillions of isk? what would be your reason to log in (after ofc trashing every possible ship in this game at least twice) ? why would you play? would this game has any meaning to you? 'all good things to those who way' said some cannibal once.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: john roe yes, cause when YOU were born you could walk, run, dance and do all kind of stuff from day 1. Nor you can do this in EVE from day 1. Quote: this particular change means nothing to me. Then why you complaining? Quote: i dont care about ISK nor SPs (my chars have stopped around 100-120M. they got all they need). all i care is that eve is evolving into wrong direction. Nothing was changed IN GAME by this decision. (Aside a few happy customers, and a few stupid whiners). Quote: simplyfing this game you are actualy killing it. It is not a simplification. It's merely clipping of a useless loops. Simplification would be change in item usage requirements, for example. Quote: eve-online was a parallel universe once. was mysterious and epic. What was changed? Specifically. Point finger, if you can. Quote: and cccp lost that magic at some point. making really bad dev. decisions. It's you lost it, not CCP. you just grew up and learned of it, thus... Quote: And they have raised their voices and proclaimed: "It's MAGIC!!" "No, - he replied, - I just know how it's done..." You know how it's done - you lost that "magic" feeling. Sad for you, but not a case enough to be stupid... dig your sore brain and recover the "magic". If it didn't corroded yet into marasmus... if i would have to point out some specific date/moment in this game when things took a wrong turn i would say : - when freighters were introduced. then eve was taken to the whole different level. total, massive and unstoppable. from that point on it didnt matter how many POSes you have destroyed, how many enemy battleships you have torn appart cause, thanks to freighters, you could, literally drown enemy in your reinforcements. 'Nor you can do this in EVE from day 1.' well, there is a slight of a difference now, dont you think? between training learning skills for a month or two(?) AND going right into what you want now.
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:38:00 - [19] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 25/11/2010 20:30:01 Originally by: john roe then i want your version of this game because obviously we are playing 2 different types of eve. enjoyment in this game has ended (at least for me) around 2007. i am here only to see how this game is gonna die. I, for one, thank you for continuing to pay your subscription and not cluttering up bandwidth. Not only is your subscription money making my Eve a more enjoyable game (see this change), but your refusal to play means it is also less crowded. Hang in there and keep paying your subscription... Eve will die any day now. i 'pay' with isk, mate. no RL money for cccp from me. i guess your elaboration is kinda miss right now, dont you think? ;] but dont let it stop you from trying to look smart. you will get there one day. hugs
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2010.11.25 20:56:00 - [20] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 25/11/2010 20:49:02 Originally by: john roe Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 25/11/2010 20:30:01 Originally by: john roe then i want your version of this game because obviously we are playing 2 different types of eve. enjoyment in this game has ended (at least for me) around 2007. i am here only to see how this game is gonna die. I, for one, thank you for continuing to pay your subscription and not cluttering up bandwidth. Not only is your subscription money making my Eve a more enjoyable game (see this change), but your refusal to play means it is also less crowded. Hang in there and keep paying your subscription... Eve will die any day now. i 'pay' with isk, mate. no RL money for cccp from me. i guess your elaboration is kinda miss right now, dont you think? ;] but dont let it stop you from trying to look smart. you will get there one day. hugs You mean when you said you're only still around to watch Eve die you were just talking out your ass? Or is the isk magically appearing in your wallet? I'm guessing the latter since bitter vets claiming doom and gloom and that "Eve is dying" are always on point. On a more serious note, stop talking ****, or not and carry on. "Eve is dying yada yada". there isnt much input into this discussion on your part lately, mate therefor i will close this 'convo' with you. gn

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